5.0.5 Hotfixes
by Sunfyre on Sep.17, 2012, under Mists of Pandaria
The following hotfix was applied which affects Moonkin. I am not sure if this was a specific 5.0.5 bug because I have noticed for quite awhile (before 5.0.5) that you can no longer stack a Shooting Stars starsurge immediately following a starfire departing an eclipse for the bonus eclipsed nuke. I guess since they now fixed the eclipse lag entering an eclipse, it was only fair.
Eclipse should no longer provide bonus damage after it fades.
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Jim: Hey Sunfyre. I get the legendary Meta soon. Does anything Major change when i get to gem? Statweights, Playstyle. thx
Sunfyre: When you hit 0 energy, in 5.1, you'd go to 20 energy. + 40 energy from one cast to 60 energy, + 40 energy from cast #2, that's 100 energy. Now you go from 0 energy to 40 energy. Cast #1 brings you to 80. Cast #2 is still required, and it brings you to 100 energy (which is really 120 but you get nothing for that extra energy). The amount of casts did not change. 2.
gore: Wait, what you just said doesn't make sense. What makes us go straight to 20 energy? With SotF it takes 2 casts to reach lunar. 2 casts to reach solar. Without SotF it takes 3, correct me if i'm wrong.
S: Sorry, I don't understand where your getting the 20 from, 100 80 60 40 20 0 40 80 100 or sotf 100 80 60 40 20 0 (40 sf + 40 sotf) 80 120 ??
Madnz: Hi sunfyre, how would you say the 4p t15 will be with SoTF? Does that also maybe make mastery more valuable?
Sunfyre: You already go 20-Lunar, 60, 100. Going 40-80-100(120) is the same amount of casts to hit 100.
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Sunfyre: SoTF wasn't much of a buff. It didn't reduce starfire casts to lunar, and only reduced wrath casts by potentially one. I'd stick with incarnation.
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September 18th, 2012 on 12:38 am
You can still queued an instant SS following the final nuke of an Eclipse (as we used to cheese an extra eclipsed cast in Cata) but for a long time now (pretty much from Fae Empowerment / New Euphoria) it hasn’t benefited from eclipse; in fact they over-corrected a bit in that the final eclipse nuke wasn’t benefitting itself for a while until they fixed that too.
September 18th, 2012 on 9:08 pm
I forgot to say what the actual hotfix did – sometimes when you hit CA at 0 energy following a lunar it doubled dipped (as in SF buffed by both lunar and CA). It was buggy as to when it’d occur (sometimes at 0 energy, sometimes at 20 lunar, sometimes never).
September 19th, 2012 on 1:21 pm
Question: If SS procs during the cast of the last Wrath that would end a Solar Eclipse, will it be a substantial DPS gain to interrupt the cast to benefit from an eclipsed SS instead? Seeing how pitiful Wrath damage is, I can see the answer being ‘yes’, which would make moonkin rotation even clunkier than it already feels -in my view.
Additionally, in live right now I find that if I want to queue a SS right after a Wrath, a number of times it just will not go off. Anyone else seen this?
Thanks for the feedback.