Nibelung nerfed?
by Sunfyre on Feb.02, 2010, under General
After speaking to multiple people of multiple classes, it appears Blizzard nerfed the proc rate of [item]Nibelung[/item]. I may go back to my MH/OH combination now.
UPDATE: It appears Blizzard did apply a “stealth nerf” to Nibelung. From what I’ve been able to gather, it only procs on direct damage dealing spells now, and no other abilities. This means it no longer procs on [spell]Languish[/spell], [spell]Earth and Moon[/spell], [item]Glyph of Starfall[/item], etc. It apparently does not proc on [spell]Starfall[/spell] anymore either.
UPDATE: Ghostcrawler responded to a question regarding Nibelung’s proc rate here, stating they did not intend to change the proc rate of Nibelung in 3.3.2. Hopefully they’ll revert whatever happened to it.
UPDATE: Bornakk posts that a hotfix to Nibelung is in the works, which will increase it’s proc chance to 2% and make it heal itself for 25% of the damage done it’s total health every time it casts. Still not overtly impressive, and still doesn’t address why there was a change to the proc mechanic.
UPDATE: Bornakk clarifies here about the change to the proc rate, and confirms it was done intentionally to prevent other abilities from causing a proc. He still calls it a buff, however when we go to 3%-4% proc chance to 2%, I don’t see that as a buff.
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February 3rd, 2010 on 7:30 am
Did they at least make them more durable when they do proc?
February 3rd, 2010 on 7:45 am
I don’t think so.
February 3rd, 2010 on 7:50 am
I’m still walking around with a TOC-10 weapon because I just hate all my options in ICC.
February 3rd, 2010 on 8:09 am
I think my eventual option is the dagger off 10 man heroic Arthas.
February 3rd, 2010 on 8:39 am
What? are you completely serious?, just asked my guild’s Warlock as soon as i saw your tweet, she said the proc was behaving as usual, ;(.
I want my Valkyrs!
February 3rd, 2010 on 10:23 am
You have to remember we have a higher proc rate then most classes, because every application of Earth and Moon, every Glyph of Starfire extension, every Languish procs it. We tend to get a 3 for 1 or 4 for 1 proc rate off it, unlike other classes.
February 3rd, 2010 on 12:26 pm
And even after all that, we could just about out dps tanks. Are blizzard even playing the same game we are?
February 3rd, 2010 on 2:16 pm
so tell us if u have 4t10 your feelings
February 3rd, 2010 on 11:32 pm
I do not have 4pc yet. I’ve ended up sitting for a few bosses this week. If all goes well I should have it by next Tuesday. I am quite impressed by it though.
February 4th, 2010 on 12:25 pm
hh like i said, i compared me and my friend with 4t10 acttualy we have quite simillar stats but he has 4t10 me 2t9 2t10 and boss fight was the same, mine dmg by moonfire was 210 000dmg , and his dmg by languish 125 000dmg and moonfire 90 000dmg
so ? …(
February 4th, 2010 on 4:45 pm
Your moonfire uptime had to be higher. If your moonfire critical was 50pct which is about accurate, given 2 points of improved moonfire, 45000 of the 90000 moonfire dot would have been doubled, bringing total dot damage to 180000.
February 5th, 2010 on 4:09 pm
so mine moonfire uptime was 83% friends 87% … its that 4t10 dmg = 2t9 dmg….mean comparing set bonuses only
February 5th, 2010 on 7:32 pm
4t10 does not equal 2t9. The math doesn’t back it up, nor do your damage reports. Not for completely equal gear.
February 4th, 2010 on 6:07 pm
Did you see the new hotfixes to Nibelung ?
Proc up from 1% to 2%, also self-healing to surrive longer on AoE abilities.
Was that before or after the languis-dot nerf?
February 5th, 2010 on 10:03 am
will they fix the languish, starfall and earth n moon proc problem along with the buff?
i know you dont find this impressive, but its double the damage, as WELL as an increased uptime.
Will heroic Nibelung be our BiS now?
February 5th, 2010 on 10:25 am
I asked Bornakk on the damage dealing forums but haven’t received a response. I doubt they’ll revert the change in how it procs.
I’m curious if the heroic Val’kyrs will have more health and do more damage. Black val’kyrs would be neat.
February 5th, 2010 on 2:11 pm
Would indeed be sweet to differenciate the two, more damage would be nice as well to scale up with the staff